Windows Phone 8.1, Updates, Android, Asha, Lumia X and more on Surface Geeks 56

Written by on February 19, 2014 in Blog, SG Podcast with 19 Comments

Windows Phone is the primary subject for this episode as it was in the news for all sorts of reasons.  We dive into some touchy subjects for Windows Phone fans.  We also prognosticate and predict what Nokia is up to with Android and what Microsoft’s reaction is and what they will do in the future.  You might be surprised!  We do talk some Surface but WP8 lovers, this one is for you! Lumia x?

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Episode 56 Shownotes and Links

Forum: Stick With Windows Phone?

No New Windows Phone Models on Tap for Barcelona, Re/Code, Ina Fried, February 18, 2014

Android Apps on Windows Phone Rumor End of Microsoft’s Mobile Platform? Guardian Liberty Voice, Nancy Schimelpfening, February 17, 2014

Windows Phone 8.1 Swype-like keyboard demonstrated on video, The Verge, Tom Warren, February 18, 2014

Windows Phone 8.1 includes Start Screen backgrounds and browser sync features, The Verge, Tom Warren, February 15, 2014

Microsoft claims 200M Windows 8 licenses sold, but how many are in use?

Windows 8 designer: Why Microsoft forced Metro on us all

Tablet Hourly Usage Study: iPad Dominates, Surface Users More Active During Working Hours, Chitika, February 12, 2014

Microsoft Office on iPad: It’s alive and coming sooner than most think, ZDNet, Mary Jo Foley, February 14, 2014

Microsoft readies a Lync app for Android tablets, ZDNet, Mary Jo Foley, February 18, 2014

Bing Health & Fitness Beta for Windows Phone 8, WinSuperSite, Paul Thurrott, February 17, 2014

 New Bing apps sync between Windows Phone and Windows 8, The Verge, Tom Warren, February 18, 2014

Surface Firmware Updates

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  1. SurfaceGeek says:

    Do you think we were being rough on Windows Phone on this podcast?
     
    Read this and lets discuss.
     
    External
     
    I’m interested in your opinion of this article.
     
    Otherwise, we did talk a lot about Android and iOS but I tried to warn you! It needed to be done and with the Android thing I would get used to more of it.  On all the Microsoft based podcasts.  
     
    Back to Surface next week and hopefully at least two of us will have a new Windows Phone!

  2. JWA0507 says:

    This Podcast was such a downer, I’m sorry but I know that Windows Phone has its hurdles. But I feel that Podcasts like this are for enthusiast. No I’m not asking for a complete break from reality like any of the Mac shows but really.
     
    I don’t listen to surface Geeks podcast to feel lousy.

  3. callihan44 says:

    When it comes to phones I’m not loyal to any os or mfr, I want a reliable phone with a decent camera/screen size/build quality…I have the 1020 mainly for the camera but I’m also finding the store has about everything I will ever need on a phone as far as apps go. My view is if they want windows phones to succeed they need to keep em coming and stop the delays etch… kinda hard to buy something if it isn’t available in store

  4. WolfJT says:

    I personally don’t think it was too harsh. It actually pointed out a lot issues correctly.

  5. pfinter says:

    If we wanted a podcast that only gave us puffy white clouds in a pretty blue sky and Windows is the best, then everything you guys discuss would be missing the dose of reality that is needed to make the hardware/software better. Rock on and continue to discuss both sides of the coin, the great unique aspects AND the short comings of MS hardware and software.
     
    Though I own several MS and OEM devices, I don’t exercise all the available functionality of said devices. My only other smartphone, besides a WP was a cheap BlackBerry. I really hated that buggy thing. I gave the Samsung Focus a try back in the WP7 days and I liked it well enough that I never have tried Android or IOS other than look at friends phones. For myself, WP8 does most everything I need it to do. And I probably will go with whatever is the replacement for the 520 after my 920 dies. I carry a tablet most of the time so, having a higher end phone isn’t as important now when, a low end smartphone would do.

  6. SurfaceGeek says:

    Thanks guys.  I think it was a reality podcast.  Feedback I have not heard yet is about Darren talking Nokia and Android.  He basically said that MS would not kill it and actually wanted to see how it does.  A couple of months ago I would have called him crazy, yet the day after Mary Jo Foley was saying the same thing while Dr. Pizza was sticking to his article that it’s not forkable.  
    Then, this happens!
     
    External

  7. rensul says:

    Pathetic podcast. I was hoping this week was going to be better than last week’s uncomfortable show which I thought was a new low. This time its just a bunch of whining and bitching about windows phone. I’m a Microsoft enthusiast and look forward to balanced debates regarding their technology not this crap. Should I expect you to tell me how lousy my Surface RT is next week? Can’t wait – if I decide to listen…

  8. CommonTek says:

    I don’t think they need to cover the RT issue again, we know by now it is plenty limited. JK :)

    I completely respect your opinion, but personally I feel like Windows Weekly and WPCentral often share the same views and concerns as this trio so they are not alone. I personally feel the path to growth and success is through support but also clear vocal criticisms by the very communities that use the product they are criticising. If a company cannot please thier core enthusiasts, then they will never gain market share from users who are indifferent or invested in other products.

    Again, I respect your opinion and can understand where you are coming from, just sharing my perspective.

  9. CommonTek says:

    I don’t think they need to cover the RT issue again, we know by now it is plenty limited. JK :)
    I completely respect your opinion, but personally I feel like Windows Weekly and WPCentral often share the same views and concerns as this trio so they are not alone. I personally feel the path to growth and success is through support but also clear vocal criticisms by the very communities that use the product they are criticising. If a company cannot please thier core enthusiasts, then they will never gain market share from users who are indifferent or invested in other products.
    Again, I respect your opinion and can understand where you are coming from, just sharing my perspective.

    This is also why it is good that you are sharing your criticisms instead of just walking away without giving them a chance to satisfy your needs/concerns.

    I also think that this is a sign of a good podcast, that such an array of opinions and emotions are struck… It means people are invested enough in the shows ‘talent’ and content to have an opinion. Lack of engagement would be far more concerning, at least from a hosts perspective.

    Cheers!

  10. rensul says:

    Unfortunately the array of opinions on this podcast were non-existent – as one sided as it gets…

    Typed on my god- forsaken, crappiest of the crappiest windows phone.

  11. CommonTek says:

    Ha… Well I will be joining the god-forsaken WP club then too as soon as a 5 inch windows phone like the Icon hits T-Mobile.

  12. JWA0507 says:

    I don’t want a pie in the sky podcast either, I’ve personally had enough of that in all the mac fan boy we’re the best and beyond criticism shows.
    Just lets keep the criticism to a fair level and then lets focus on what the platform does right.
     
    I own android handset now but can see a windows phone handset in my future once Microsoft turns up the feature set and customizability.

  13. FinsUpDNC says:

    Watch tonight……..I do think we have a clearer picture of the Android on Nokia issue, and that is not bad news for WIndows Phone fans. I might have converted back to the dark side of WP……will tell more later :) Bigger is better.

  14. callihan44 says:

    Watch tonight……..I do think we have a clearer picture of the Android on Nokia issue, and that is not bad news for WIndows Phone fans. I might have converted back to the dark side of WP……will tell more later :) Bigger is better.

    look forward to this discussion

  15. JWA0507 says:

    I’ve seen some of the articles and its some doom and gloom I think this isn’t the case.
     
    Ed Bot ash a great piece on it and I think he’s pretty close to the mark on why this is happening.

  16. Typed on my god- forsaken, crappiest of the crappiest windows phone.

    Now that’s funny

    Sent from my Lumia 928 using Tapatalk

  17. pfinter says:

    Now that’s funny

    Sent from my Lumia 928 using Tapatalk

    Yep.  

  18. kevin says:

    Can you share the link to the article you are referring to?  Thanks.

  19. kylejwx says:

    When it comes to phones I’m not loyal to any os or mfr, I want a reliable phone with a decent camera/screen size/build quality…I have the 1020 mainly for the camera but I’m also finding the store has about everything I will ever need on a phone as far as apps go. My view is if they want windows phones to succeed they need to keep em coming and stop the delays etch… kinda hard to buy something if it isn’t available in store

    Completely agree about keep em coming, stop the delays, and get them in stores. Right now my store has one Windows Phone on display and I don’t think we had any on display over the holidays.

    We can look at it from two perspectives: consumer demand and store supply. Obviously, it is a lot easier to move a product when people come into a store with a high demand for it. That’s the consumer side. On the store side, you need two main things: convince general managers that the product is profitable for their store and actually have a supply of the products in the store.

    1. Windows Phone needs to have the same lineup of phones across multiple carriers. No more exclusives! That’s one reason Samsung beat HTC and LG to the punch.
    2. Windows Phone needs to hit every price point. You absolutely have to have a decent phone that can be sold on contract for $1/free in the store. So many phone decisions are made because that’s all the money the consumer has at the moment. But you also need a couple of higher end options.
    3. You must have a wide variety of cases and other accessories in store for Windows Phones. Consumers won’t buy phones that they can’t get a case for, and just as important, store managers want nothing to do with a phone to which they cannot attach profitable accessories to.
    3. Find a way to deal with returns. I don’t have a solution for this one, but believe it or not Windows Phones get returned a lot. General Managers hate that.
    4. Windows Phones must be in stock in the stores.
    5. Microsoft and Nokia must provide stores with display units. Last year I tweeted at all the Microsoft and Nokia Twitter accounts that I could find, begging them to get us a display of the product they claim they are trying to sell. I didn’t get any responses.

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